Every few months we feature the pioneers that make up the ThirdPath community.
This month we are putting a spotlight on the authors of the book, Equally Shared Parenting. Read on to learn how the Vachons created a life that supported equal investment in every aspect of their lives – work, family, and personal interest.
Marc and Amy Vachon
Marc and Amy described how they began their equally shared lifestyle, and how they continue it today with school-aged children and increasing responsibilities at work. We then asked B. Hibbs, who also participated in the call, how she would describe Marc and Amy’s lives. We think she hit the nail on the head when she said they had a true spirit of generosity and a collaborative model where everyone feels satisfied, and each has honestly and openly communicated their wants. B. should know, she is a therapist and author of Try to See It My Way: Being Fair in Love and Marriage.
Listening to Amy and Mark you can quickly see how sharing home responsibilities helps create a better way for each parent to manage their overall workloads.
However, we also learned that people who want to create a “whole life” not only need a team at home, they also need a team at work. For example, Amy and another mom both work 32 hours a week. Together they have created a one-and-one-half job share arrangement and they co-direct their department together. As Amy says, “MaryAnn is my equally sharing partner at work, and Marc is my equally sharing partner at home.”
Marc, like Amy, had negotiated with his employer to cut back his work hours. He also described a point in time when a more collaborative approach at work made a difference. A while ago he was feeling overwhelmed with the amount of work he was managing. He knew there had to be a better way – one that included more planning and less fire-fighting. Talking with his boss, Marc made a number of suggestions, ideas that would help him and his other team members step back and think smarter about their collective approach. In hindsight, Marc can see he was motivated to have this conversation with his boss because he knew that the overwhelm was negatively impacting his ability to achieve his family’s equally shared parenting goals.
Marc and Amy’s story helps illustrate how healthy boundaries are good for employees and good for employers.
Through trial and error both Marc and Amy were able to determined what needed to be prioritized at work, and think ahead more as they planned for the long term – both at work and at home.
Marc and Amy show us how it’s possible to create a family life where both parents can be supported to live whole lives. One that creates space for equal investment in work, family and personal interests. They would also argue that clear communication, boundary setting, and out of the box thinking were the keys to their success.
After Fifteen Months of Chronic Overwork, I Still Have One More Month to Go
The last 15 months have been challenging, not just because of some unexpected life events (learn more), but also because our organization is growing. Growth is a good thing. We want to reach more people with our exciting and important mission. But the trick is figuring out how to have growth happen at approximately the same rate as our capacity to manage this growth.
Luckily, at ThirdPath we very purposefully build in slower periods of work over the summers so we can make changes to address these types of issues. In fact, this summer we put a great plan in place to manage this growth. However, hiring and training people takes time, so my chronic overwork continued through the end of the year, and I’m hoping it will be behind me in the next month (or two).
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I like to tell people to think of their capacity for work as a glass of water.
Is your glass filled to the brim? Overflowing? Or do you have a little wiggle room at the top of the glass?
When managing my capacity for work, I’ve learned to very intentionally plan around busier and less busy periods of work – or continuing with the glass analogy – to plan for the times when my glass is filled to the brim and spilling over versus when I have a little extra room at the top. If I’ve done a good job preparing for a busy period, I have created extra support and good personal habits to handle this peak period more effectively.
During slower periods, I use the “extra room” in my glass to make changes that will improve how I work going forward. I systematize processes, re-prioritize tasks, and decide what to delegate so that I have more time for what I am uniquely qualified to do.
It turns out working this way isn’t just good for you, it’s also good for your organization. It means you are better able to manage the unexpected – both at work and outside of work. It also means I come to work more refreshed, and better able to keep my perspective about what’s really an emergency and what’s really most important. However, this Fall, I could tell living with this on-going level of stress wasn’t good for me.
When constantly in a state of overwork I began to notice how smaller things pushed me off balance very easily.
I was quick to lose my perspective. I even caught myself working less efficiently, and even making some mistakes.
In October, my husband and I planned a long weekend away to celebrate my birthday. I pride myself in my ability to turn off work while on vacation, and I was able to do this during this trip as well. But even with this break, when I got back to work, I was shocked to see how quickly I returned to the same stressed perspective I had before vacation.
Once again there was a task that needed to get done that was going to require more time than I had available. And just like before vacation, it pushed me immediately into a stressed response, instead of being able to step back and imagine a more creative solution.
The truth is with so many months of stress behind me and a few more to go, I shouldn’t be surprised that I’m still behaving this way.
I didn’t do anything wrong. Growth is good. Life happens. ThirdPath has also developed and begun to implement a plan that will end this period of overwork. But I also have to admit that during the last 15 months, sometimes I have traveled to a bit of a dark place. A place where I start losing hope, and believing things will never change.
Luckily I have developed and maintained a number of good habits to regain my normally optimistic outlook. I exercise regularly. My husband cooks amazing healthy dinners for our family. I carve out routine times during my work week without calls or meetings so I can get focused work done. And all year long I relied on my staff to help me keep focused on my top priority work.
When I get overloaded, I also try to remember to stop and take a walk, or to call a friend, or to do both. This helps remind me that it is probably the chronic overwork that is causing me to see things worse than they are. But I’m also really tired of it, and I’m looking forward to a much more balanced 2017!
Did you make a New Year’s resolution to push back at overwork and create more time for life? Let us help you.
Check out our free resources, including our “Key Integration Practices” handout.
We Can Start the Revolution At Home
All year long our Thursdays with ThirdPath webinars are exploring the “courageous conversations” we need to have – at work and home – to follow an integrated approach to work and life.
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Let Go of the Score Sheet …
When the give and take feels unfair within a relationship, couples often start keeping score of the growing injustices.
To break the negative cycle and reconnect in a more positive way, Dr B. Hibbs, author of Try To See It My Way, guides couples through four steps.
Step one – Recognize when an injustice has been done. This can be difficult and it may even feel like you are putting your relationship at risk. It also means opening yourself up to the role you have played in the situation – although this injustice may not be 50-50, none are 0-100.
Step two – Acknowledge the harmful consequences of the situation – and do this in a way that shows true remorse, compassion and helps each of you hold yourselves personally accountable.
Step three – Identify actions that can help restore a sense of fairness – some might be small “everyday changes” (not reading email at dinner and asking about each others’ day), some might be “high-impact changes” (changing jobs or coming to couples therapy).
Step four – By following this process, couples begin to regain trust. And as Dr Hibbs points out, “As your reserves of trust rise, feelings of love and security flow. Your relationship begins an upward, hopeful spiral.”
Reignite the Flame…
Ask Esther Perel what the challenges are for couples in the bedroom, and she’d say it’s our culture’s deep ambivalence around sexuality, and in particular “eroticism in the context of family.”
Ms. Perel’s book includes lots of great advice to counter this message as well as helpful case studies couples can use to rekindle the flames.
For example, she introduces us to Stephanie and Warren, a couple where the father works full time and the mom cares for the children full time. Ms. Perel uses this case study to illustrate how some times, our ambivalence around being parents while also continuing to enjoy our sexuality, may mean the energy once channeled towards the couple, is now channeled only towards the children.
Perel observes, “There are regular playdates for Jake but only three dates a year for Stephanie and Warren: two birthday and one anniversary. There is the latest kids’ fashion for Sophia, but only college sweats for Stephanie. The couple rents twenty G-rated movies for every R-rated movie. And there are languorous hugs for the kids while the grown-ups must survive on a diet of quick pecks.”
To avoid this problem, she reminds couples, “Eroticism in the home requires active engagement and willful intent … We must unpack our ambivalence about pleasure, and challenge our pervasive discomfort with sexuality, particularly in the context of family.”
To learn more, click on the “11/14 Love” SoundCloud icon to hear B. Hibbs talk about her book, Try To See It My Way.
Or click on the “2/12 Sex and Flex” SoundCloud icon to hear two experts discuss how couples can put Esther Perel’s book, Mating In Captivity, into practice.
This year we’ve been looking at “courageous conversations”
All year long our Thursdays with ThirdPath webinars have been exploring the “courageous conversations” we need to have – at work and home – to follow an integrated approach to work and life.
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Below are some “lessons learned” from our November webinar where we looked at the courageous conversations that help create more flexibility at work.
Michelle started by talking about the flexible schedule she used when her children were young. She described the challenges she had to overcome, but also how she was able to continue with her flexible schedule even as she became a partner at her accounting firm.
Now – as the CFO of Independent Bank – Michelle is making flexibility available for her team.
Amy, one of Michelle’s team members, talked about the positive influence Michelle has had at her workplace.
For example, Amy remembers Michelle saying, “It’s ok to turn your blackberry off over the weekend.” This is something Michelle modeled herself. It also hadn’t been part of Amy’s work culture prior to this point.
Amy also explains how watching Michelle manage her team more flexibly empowered Amy to follow the same approach with the team she is now managing.
Amy and Michelle’s stories illustrate how much “integrated leaders” – professionals who have modeled an integrated approach their entire careers – are making a difference in our workplaces.
It also helps illustrate something ThirdPath learned a long time ago – in order to make change within organizations, you need to follow a 3 pronged approach:
(1) Individuals need to develop good skills.
(2) Teams need to develop solutions that work for everyone.
(3) Leaders need to be advocates for change, and some of the leaders also need to be role models.
Want to learn more?
Listen to the webinar by clicking the YouTube video on the right.
Here’s the PDF of the “courageous conversations at work” summary we created from the webinar.
Or join us next month when we take another look at the courageous conversations we are having to create more satisfying lives.
Combining work and life goals improves how we work
Yes, it’s true. When you encourage people to think about both their work and life needs at the same time, often they will find more efficient ways to approach their work.This is something Lotte Bailyn taught us even before we launched ThirdPath Institute 15 years ago. And it creates the foundation for all of the work we do.
Later, Leslie Perlow – a mentee of Lotte Bailyn – was able to build on Lotte’s work when she did her innovative research in a highly competitive consulting organization.
Leslie’s sensational book – Sleeping with Your Smart Phone – described what happened when team members were required to take predictable time off (PTO) while working to meet client needs.
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Below are some of the amazing findings from Leslie’s research.
You can also listen to our exciting Thursday with ThirdPath webinar with her by clicking the soundcloud icon below.
Here’s a list of the many benefits the teams gained from participating in the PTO process …
They addressed problems sooner
– Maybe only 3 answers were necessary not 5
– Maybe they needed to reallocate resources
– Maybe a conversation with the client was required
They reduced travel
It reduced evening and weekend email
They made meetings more effective
– As one participant said: “I now structure case team meetings around core client
issues and can leverage the collective intelligence of the team”
It improved how they scheduled meetings
They invented new ways to share daily progress on projects
It increased flexibility around where work was done
They addressed performance problems early on
The general take away: setting limits on work time increased everyone’s creativity!
Or as Leslie explains it, they addressed the “knowing-doing gap.” People knew there was a problem, and could also come up with ways to address the problem.
It also encouraged “collective experimentation.” Multiple people experimented together, and by doing so they were able to challenge the status quo. They also learned each “micro change” built on the ones before them, unleashing the ability to make changes within the team and ultimately in the organization’s culture.
Want to learn more about how Lotte’s amazing work reshaped the work-family landscape, read an excerpt from a recent article, Lotte Bailyn – Thought Leader, celebrating her important contributions.
Why Change is possible
The 2015-2016 season of Thursdays with ThirdPath webinars will explore the courageous conversations men and women are having – at their workplaces and in their homes – to follow an integrated approach to work and life.
Anne-Marie Slaughter will be joining us to discuss how her new book – Unfinished Business – is helping promote these courageous conversations.
NOTE: Our 10/22/15 webinar with Anne-Marie Slaughter
has been re-scheduled for 2016. Click here for more info.
Unfinished Business is the much awaited follow-up to her article
that went viral July 2012 – “Why Women Still Can’t Have it all.”
In this article, Anne-Marie listed 5 mandates for change that she believed would help us create a world where we could succeed at work while also creating time for our lives outside of work.
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Here’s a quick recap of the 5 mandates and how they are connected to the work we do
Men and Women Changing the Culture of Face Time – This is at the root of all of the work ThirdPath does as we encourage men and women to look for the unique flexibility in their jobs. Not every job can be flexed in the same way, but there is a flexible solution for every job. It also means pushing back at chronically overworked work cultures so that employees don’t just trade long hours at the office for long hours at home.
Men and Women Revaluing Family Values – ThirdPath sees this in the multitude of Shared Care families we’ve met – whether they flexed or reduced their work hours at the same time, shared roles over the course of the year, or shared different roles at different stages in their family’s development. In each of these stories the parents learned how to maintain their involvement with work while also staying actively involved in the joys and responsibilities of caring for their children.
Men and Women Redefining the Arc of a Successful Career – This is at the core of the work we do with ThirdPath’s Pioneering Leaders group. This is a truly inspirational group of male and female leaders who have all courageously followed integrated career paths. Now they are working with us to create wider change. Together we are examining the systemic issues that need to be addressed so even more leaders can follow in their footsteps.
Men and Women Rediscovering the Pursuit of Happiness – Whether it is the joy you gain from an amazing vacation (our July blog), or making the most of summer (our August blog) or pushing back at overwhelm (our September blog), this recommendation gets right to the heart of our mission: to assist individuals, families and organizations in finding new ways to redesign work and life to create time for family, community and other life priorities.
Men and Women Becoming an Innovation Nation – Right again! Lotte Bailyn discovered this concept over a decade ago when she first introduced the term “dual agenda” – solutions that are good for business and good for you. Today this is central to our work. Just like Lotte Bailyn, we’ve discovered that when you encourage employees to do this – from entry level to executive level – they actually find ways to improve how work is done.
Join our Thursdays with ThirdPath webinars to learn more about the courageous conversations you can have to put these mandates into action.
“I knew I could be replaced at work, but I could never be replaced at home”
This is a quote from one of the leaders who attended our recent Pioneering Leaders Summit – he also happened to be a father.
It was an amazing day – over 40% of the attendees were men – including the men in the photos on the right, as well as a number of wonderful “dad-vocates.”
To celebrate the difference men can make in the change process, read on for an excerpt from Scott Behson’s new book – The Working Dad’s Survival Guide: How to Succeed at Work and at Home.
It describes an experience every parent will recognize between Scott and his school-aged
A few years ago, I was in a big, fat stinking hurry …
Nick was just old enough to get his coat, hat, gloves and shoes on by himself, and I needed him to do so quickly or else we’d be late for the thing that was soooo super-important that now I can’t even remember what it was. So, of course I see Nick presumably fooling around and taking his sweet time getting his jacket on. We’re running late. This thing is very important. We need to get going. So, I snap at him about his jacket.
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I apologized, tried to make him feel better, and slowed down to his speed. Somehow it turned out perfectly ok that we were ten minutes late for that super-important thing.
My mistake was a powerful lesson that taught me to be a better dad. I was injecting unnecessary stress into my time with Nick. I wasn’t being present with him. Instead, I was so focused on my schedule and on a fleeting, unimportant thing that seemed so pressing at the time. My time with Nick shouldn’t have been contaminated. While I’m not always successful, I’m getting better about being in the moment.
This lesson on fatherhood also helped me in other facets of my life.
Ever since becoming a father, I’ve learned to be more patient, more tolerant, and less of a “type-A” person. I’m far happier, more relaxed, and have learned to better separate what’s worth worrying about and what isn’t. I’ve also learned to listen better, to empathize more, and to see things from other’s perspectives. I have a better understanding that what comes easily to me does not always come easily to others. I’ve learned how to be more precise when communicating and giving instructions, and, perhaps most importantly, learned how to help people handle change and other stressful situations. (Thank you, Nick, for making me a better, happier person!)
All of these fatherhood-acquired skills and perspectives also serve me well at work. My college students usually try to do the right thing, but get stuck by real and self-imposed obstacles. They are just being introduced to information and perspectives that I’ve been focusing on for almost two decades. They have different learning styles, and come to my classroom from all over the world with different experiences and perspectives. I now better understand my students, and have gotten better at reaching them. Thanks to being a father, I am a far more effective college professor.
At work, I have also had opportunities to supervise other professors as department chair, run committees, and be an informal leader on team project work. As a tenured professor, I have also been called on to mentor new faculty.
My work colleagues also usually try to do the right thing, but get stuck by real or self-imposed obstacles. They have different specializations, personalities and communication styles. Some of my colleagues have a difficult time trying new things or working in new ways. I now better understand my colleagues, and have gotten better working with them. Thanks to being a father, I am more effective as an informal leader at work.
Get a copy of Scott’s book, it will help you see how actively involved fathers can become, as Scott says, “more organized, efficient, empathetic, and better able to differentiate what is/is not truly important. These skills apply to all aspects of life, including at work.”
On June 11th, Josh Levs will be joining our Thursdays with ThirdPath webinar to talk about his new book — All In: How Our Work-First Culture Fails Dads, Families, and Businesses – And How We Can Fix It Together. Don’t forget, Scott’s and Josh’s books both make great Fathers Days gifts!
Men face multiple obstacles when trying to create a flexible approach to work and family. We tweeted about the top 5 just before our March Thursdays with ThirdPath webinar. Take a look, you’ll notice 4 our of 5 of them look very familiar to women.
Top 5 barriers for fathers & family –
#5 Increased financial risk unless you are willing to put work first
#4 Outdated gender norms – both at work and home
#3 Outdated work norms – such as long work hours and face time
#2 Lack of progressive public policy
But fathers are fighting another barrier. For many it feels like the #1 barrier
to being involved in their families:
#1 Men’s invisibility and poor representation of fathers in the media
Thanks to a group of pioneering men (and pioneering organizations like City Dads, Dad 2.0 Summit, National at Home Dad Network, Boston College’s research on The New Dad … and of course ThirdPath Institute!) – there is growing momentum to push back at this barrier.
Below are the stories of some of the dads involved with this change. To the right are their photos.
Scott Behson – Scott and his wife have Shared Care since their son was born, each parent increasing their role at home as they flexed around the others work schedule. Scott’s fatherhood blog lead him to write a book that will be available this summer – Working Dads Survival Guide.
Kevin O’Shea – Kevin was the primary parent at home when his children were young. After separating from his wife, he returned to work, and continued his role as primary parent after school. Kevin is a ThirdPath board member, founder of Partnership for Dads and co-author of – The Fatherstyle Advantage: Surefire Techniques Every Parent Can Use to Raise Confident and Caring Kids.
Kipp Jarecke-Cheng – Kipp works full time and is the primary flexer around the care of his children. Kipp and his partner get additional support from their nanny. Kipp is a ThirdPath Institute board member.
Lester Spence – Lester and his wife are raising 5 children. Although he works full time while she stays home, he’s also actively involved in the family – from braiding hair to baking bread. As a political science professor, Lester understands, “This is a political issue. If involved fathers are stigmatized, over the generations this stigma will go away, and that’s worth fighting for.”
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Christopher Persley – Christopher and his wife also decided he would put his career aside to be the primary caregiver for their daughter while she continued working. Christopher is a member of NYC Dads Group and the National at Home Dad Network.
Doug French – Doug and his ex-wife share in the care of their two school aged children, flexing work and child care responsibilities. Doug is co-founder of the Dad 2.0 Summit – celebrating 5 years of dad’s using their collective influence to create a new narrative for fatherhood.
Brad Harrington – Brad worked while his wife cared for the children when they were young. Now that they are older, both parents flex work and Share Care. Brad runs the Boston College Center for Work and Family. He has also published multiple studies on the changing role of fathers.
Want to learn more about this movement for change? Listen to the below SoundClound recording. Don’t skip the ending! You’ll hear Josh Levs talk about his new book – All In: How our work-first culture fails dads, families and business. Available May 12th!
The Email Dump
I spent this summer catching up on the backlog of work I couldn’t get to when things had been much busier this spring. The last item on my list was dealing with my out of control in-box that had thousands of emails needing to be dealt with.
I’m one of those people who is actually pretty efficient with email. We’re also a small organization with good work norms, which helps ensure that none of us are swimming in email. Nevertheless, even with good email practices, my inbox had gotten out of control. To figure out what to do I pulled out some of my favorite articles on email management to see if they might inspire me.
One of the funniest ones is written by Sarah Green about the “Responsiveness Trap.” In it she reminds us how we have moved away from the benefits of email. Email allows for asynchronous conversations – you receive a question, reflect on it, and then respond in a thoughtful way. But today our goal is to “get through” our email, and our half responses and lack of reflection create a flurry of new emails.
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However, the dates of most of my emails were up to 9 months old, so I decided I wasn’t stuck in the responsiveness trap.
Another favorite article, Coping with Email Overload by Peter Bregman, helps readers learn about the value of reading email in focused batches to increase efficiency and effectiveness. Interestingly, he learned this technique after returning from a technology-free vacation where he noticed “I had hundreds of email messages waiting for me. I took a deep breath and started in on them. Three hours later, my inbox — a week’s worth of messages — was empty.”
Was that the answer? A full day (or more) spent sifting through old emails until my inbox was back in order?
I was torn. Were these emails worth this kind of dedication? Or was this huge pile of dated emails more likely to be the last step in a neglected email chain – the meeting that had long ago been organized, the idea mulled over and finally taken action on, the request for information that wasn’t really needed after all.
I noticed myself fantasizing about a friend who had suddenly lost all of her emails because of a technological glitch. Suddenly she was freed from, as Sarah Green says, the “cacophony of voices all shouting for my attention, shouting so loud I can’t hear what anyone is saying and I start wanting to scream loud noises myself.”
Would it be fair to fake a technological glitch?
I pulled out ThirdPath’s trusted “Managing Emails” check list, reviewed some of the suggestions, and became increasingly curious about finding ways to make these emails disappear. I did the math. If every week there were 8 emails I didn’t methodically delete from my in-box, over the course of a normal year “email creep” would account for over 400 emails in my inbox. The lesson learned, even with good email practices, it’s hard to stay on top of email.
OK – maybe I didn’t have to fake a technological meltdown, maybe I could simply adopt a new practice – the email dump.
What if I decided every few months I’d take my oldest emails and I’d put them in a folder marked for that year. I wouldn’t review them, or angst if I was about to miss something important, instead I’d just file them away. I made the change and felt instantaneous relief.
Suddenly my inbox looked more manageable. I also knew where to look if I needed one of those old emails in the future… but I’ll bet you a 1,000 emails I won’t ever need to!
SOMETHING VERY POWERFUL IS HAPPENING – A TRUE GAME CHANGER …
There is a big is shift taking place and it looks like the U.S. might actually be one of the leaders of this movement for change.
All year long we’ve been watching these groups foster a new conversation about what it means to be a father.
■ City Dads Groups (www.citydadsgroup.com)
■ National At Home Dads Network (www.athomedad.org)
■ Dad 2.0 Summit (www.dad2summit.com)
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To register for the 3/12/15 webinar (12:30pm to 1:30pm ET), go to: March Thursday Webinar.
Read on to see the fantastic line up of “Dad-vocates” who will be joining us.
Or take a look at the wonderful video shown at last months’ Dad 2.0 Summit. You’ll see just how much dads
are changing – and as we’ve know for the last 14 years at ThirdPath – how this is great for women.
Scott and his wife have Shared Care since their son was born, each parent increasing their role at home as they flex around each others work schedules.
Scott’s fatherhood blog has lead him to write a book, that will be available this spring – Working Dads Survival Guide.
Kevin was the primary parent at home when his children were young. After separating from his wife, he returned to work, and continued his role as primary parent after school.
Kevin is a ThirdPath board member, founder of Partnership for Dads and co-author of – The Fatherstyle Advantage: Surefire Techniques Every Parent Can Use to Raise Confident and Caring Kids.
Kipp works full time and is the primary flexer around the care of his children. Kipp and his partner get additional support from their nanny.
Kipp is a ThirdPath Institute board member.
Involved Dad: Lester and his wife are raising 5 children. Although he works full time while she stays home, he’s also actively involved in the family – from braiding hair to baking bread.
Dad-vocate: As a political science professor, Lester understands, “This is a political issue. If involved fathers are stigmatized, over the generations this stigma will go away, and that’s worth fighting for.”
Chris and his wife decided what made most sense for their family was to have Chris become the primary parent at home while his wife continued to advance in her career.
Chris is a board member of the National at Home Dad Network and co-organizer of Philadelphia City Dads.
Christopher and his wife also decided he would put his career aside to be the primary caregiver for their daughter while she continued working.
Christopher is a member of NYC Dads Group and the At Home Dad Network.
Doug and his ex-wife share in the care of their two school aged children, flexing work and child care responsibilities.
Doug is co-founder of the Dad 2.0 Summit – celebrating 5 years of dad’s using their collective influence to create a new narrative for fatherhood.
Brad worked while his wife cared for the children when they were young. Now that they are older, both parents flex work and Share Care.
Brad runs the Boston College Center for Work and Family. He has also published multiple studies on the changing role of fathers.
To register for the 3/12/15 webinar, go to: March Thursday Webinar. Please note, this is a different process then for other Thursdays with ThirdPath webinars.